pappu
02-25 09:43 AM
I am surprised...why IV is not raising this.. The fundamental issues of EB immigration wont' be solved until CIR happens and that could take forever. No one cares about immigration right now.. The only thing that can provide immediate relief for EB immigrants is if we express our desire to buy houses(unable to do so becoz of lack of GC).
Wakup IV!..where art thou'
We already ran a campaign http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=21665
How many of you took part in it?
There was a funding drive recently and also in the last quarter of 2008. Total contributions in the last 6 months have been too little to engage in a full fledged lobbying effort on any issue. Despite that we pushed through.
Before we start blaming IV core, let us see if we are all ready to take part in IV action items. If people do not take part in any action item and support IV en masse then success will be hard to come by.
Wakup IV!..where art thou'
We already ran a campaign http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=21665
How many of you took part in it?
There was a funding drive recently and also in the last quarter of 2008. Total contributions in the last 6 months have been too little to engage in a full fledged lobbying effort on any issue. Despite that we pushed through.
Before we start blaming IV core, let us see if we are all ready to take part in IV action items. If people do not take part in any action item and support IV en masse then success will be hard to come by.
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mariner5555
05-13 02:21 PM
What are you talking about? There are a limited number of green cards each year. The US wants the best of the best to get these green cards. Therefore, more preference is given to those with a higher degree or more experience. What's unjust or unfair about that? The trick is to look at things from the American perspective and not from the immigrant perspective.
And for the record, I am an EB3. well ..the problem is by the time EB3 - person gets his chance --he may become more qualified than a EB2 candidate ..esp in IT. for eg -- tell me who is more qualified.
say a person does MS (maybe from timbuktu) has 1-2 years experience (EB2) ..and there is another EB3 person with 4 year college - 3 yr experience when he applied in 2001 .(so now he has 10 yr experience and along the way he got certifications etc) ..so now who is more valuable ??
the problem is there are (some have been rectified) lot of loopholes, problems, inefficiencies (and I care rat's a__ attitude at USCIS) ..how else can you justify the wastage of visas every year ..when the US needs immigrants just as immigrants need US.
now since we cannot do much for the above ..people should have this attitude (esp EB3 - I) ..don't get stuck in a hole and at the back of mind ..be prepared that one day (maybe 10 years from now in u apply today) u may get a letter (485 denied or asking you for a paystub from the last century) i.e. be mobile (don't get stuck with immovable assets)
And for the record, I am an EB3. well ..the problem is by the time EB3 - person gets his chance --he may become more qualified than a EB2 candidate ..esp in IT. for eg -- tell me who is more qualified.
say a person does MS (maybe from timbuktu) has 1-2 years experience (EB2) ..and there is another EB3 person with 4 year college - 3 yr experience when he applied in 2001 .(so now he has 10 yr experience and along the way he got certifications etc) ..so now who is more valuable ??
the problem is there are (some have been rectified) lot of loopholes, problems, inefficiencies (and I care rat's a__ attitude at USCIS) ..how else can you justify the wastage of visas every year ..when the US needs immigrants just as immigrants need US.
now since we cannot do much for the above ..people should have this attitude (esp EB3 - I) ..don't get stuck in a hole and at the back of mind ..be prepared that one day (maybe 10 years from now in u apply today) u may get a letter (485 denied or asking you for a paystub from the last century) i.e. be mobile (don't get stuck with immovable assets)
dummgelauft
07-01 11:11 AM
Do you really agree with multi-national managers(via L1A). This is the area wherein the interpretation is pretty loose. If you dissect EB1 data you would find that EB1C used bulk of it except for this year due to bad economy and tightening of screws. There should be some very clearly defined guidelines for EB1-C, somebody being an onsite coordinator or managing 5 people should not be eligible. This category should be reserved for those who are managing at least 100 people or control business in several millions. I agree that EB1 should be just for the exceptional.
Exactly. There seems to be a mis-conception, which to a large extent has been fueled by some unethical companies, that being on L1A and having a gaggle of a few developers at client sites makes one "exceptional" and eligible for EB1.
If somebody feels they should qualify for EB-2 after X years of experience,well, reason it out with your employer and re-file. I went through this. Restarted the whole process..labor and the whole shebang...to file in EB2 just because I was unable to convince the HR manager at one of my previous employers. That is the reason my PD is Oct 2006 and not July 2003.
Exactly. There seems to be a mis-conception, which to a large extent has been fueled by some unethical companies, that being on L1A and having a gaggle of a few developers at client sites makes one "exceptional" and eligible for EB1.
If somebody feels they should qualify for EB-2 after X years of experience,well, reason it out with your employer and re-file. I went through this. Restarted the whole process..labor and the whole shebang...to file in EB2 just because I was unable to convince the HR manager at one of my previous employers. That is the reason my PD is Oct 2006 and not July 2003.
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pointlesswait
11-15 12:58 PM
here is what i suggest:
create a yahoo group or blog..and have ppl publish the name anonymously of the desi bloodsuckers...some kind of activism is required..instead of coming on this board like some ballless buggers and crying like babies...grow up and take back ur life...bytch..;-)
btw..i am not in IT so..i dont have to deal with suck suckers.. i have read so many posts abt this.. i am fed up..
create a yahoo group or blog..and have ppl publish the name anonymously of the desi bloodsuckers...some kind of activism is required..instead of coming on this board like some ballless buggers and crying like babies...grow up and take back ur life...bytch..;-)
btw..i am not in IT so..i dont have to deal with suck suckers.. i have read so many posts abt this.. i am fed up..
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ujjvalkoul
07-24 10:43 AM
Guys,
I applied in Feb 2006..My H1 Expired in Dec 2006. Canada ppl came back saying H1 should be valid for at least 1 year.
Now when I get my H extension and reapply - can I use the same Police clearance from Indian Embassy and FBI that was sent in Feb 2006?
ANy clues?
I applied in Feb 2006..My H1 Expired in Dec 2006. Canada ppl came back saying H1 should be valid for at least 1 year.
Now when I get my H extension and reapply - can I use the same Police clearance from Indian Embassy and FBI that was sent in Feb 2006?
ANy clues?
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05-22 11:22 AM
Seems they have taken down all servers.
I predict all dates magically moving back in time.
what do you mean moving back in time??
I predict all dates magically moving back in time.
what do you mean moving back in time??
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casinoroyale
12-30 09:26 AM
Please check the map at the bottom of the article. My friend and I were joking yesterday if that actually happens, NJ should become part of India :D
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eb2waiter
05-14 01:48 PM
Quote by user somegchuh: "I think this is a very interesting topic. Neelima's story is about an American citizen of Indian origin. Since, she is an american she can choose to go to courts whereas we are non-immigrants with very few rights. If you are facing abuse at workplace the only solution for an H1B worker is to change jobs."
Even if you are an immigrant but as long as you are subject to the law of UnitedStates you have every right to fight discrimination and other actions that you percieve are illegal. Even Illegal immigrants can do that. It is there in one of the ammendments.
Even if you are an immigrant but as long as you are subject to the law of UnitedStates you have every right to fight discrimination and other actions that you percieve are illegal. Even Illegal immigrants can do that. It is there in one of the ammendments.
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jsb
03-19 02:09 PM
[QUOTE=sri1309;...Isnt it a shame that a greencard holder cannot get his wife immediately wheras H1s and others can. They have to be told very loudly... .[/QUOTE]
This favours temporary workers on H1, L1 etc. An H1/L1 spouse can move to the US easily, but not that of a GC holder. If you want to bring out this "discrimination", that would mean to discontinue H4 visas, as seeminlgly it is a discrimination against a GC holder. Is that you are looking for?
This favours temporary workers on H1, L1 etc. An H1/L1 spouse can move to the US easily, but not that of a GC holder. If you want to bring out this "discrimination", that would mean to discontinue H4 visas, as seeminlgly it is a discrimination against a GC holder. Is that you are looking for?
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factoryman
06-18 05:24 PM
and will revalidate your H1B, assuming the job, company everything is same. That is my best educated guess.
What heppens if i have AP and go for H1 revalidation...the h1b gets rejected/delayed..can i come back in AP?
What heppens if i have AP and go for H1 revalidation...the h1b gets rejected/delayed..can i come back in AP?
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styrum
02-09 02:24 PM
I couldn't really find any information about the appeal process on the LC once it is denied. the ironic thing is that my first LC was approved then after I got promoted to a senior position and applied for a second LC, the 2nd LC was denied because they think there is no difference between the 1st and 2nd position. does the DOL have an automatic system that processes the LC and that why it coudn't see the difference between the 2 positions??
where can i find more info about the appeal process?? any links to go to??
Styrum: did your lawyer give you any info on how long the appeal process takes? and the probability of success in the appeal?? Thanks
The appeal process is described in PERM regulations:
http://www.foreignlaborcert.doleta.gov/pdf/PERM_Final_Rule_12-27-04_FR.pdf
4-6 months that's what I heard from an attorney. The reason I am preparing 2nd filing is that the chance of approval of my first PERM on appeal is slim. Yes the initial reason for denial is bogus, but they may still deny it because of "too restrictive requirements"
where can i find more info about the appeal process?? any links to go to??
Styrum: did your lawyer give you any info on how long the appeal process takes? and the probability of success in the appeal?? Thanks
The appeal process is described in PERM regulations:
http://www.foreignlaborcert.doleta.gov/pdf/PERM_Final_Rule_12-27-04_FR.pdf
4-6 months that's what I heard from an attorney. The reason I am preparing 2nd filing is that the chance of approval of my first PERM on appeal is slim. Yes the initial reason for denial is bogus, but they may still deny it because of "too restrictive requirements"
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forever
06-12 08:31 PM
I agree with the analysis given by willwin. In fact, I was thinking on similar lines. If no visas are wasted and total number of pending employment based visas is around 200,000 as given by Mr. Op.. himself, I do not see any reason why dates do not move. My estimation is both EB-2 and EB-3 dates for China and India will hover in the range of 2005 ~ 2006. This estimation is based on number of applications filed during Pre-PERM and Post-PERM era with two recessions taking the toll on number of applications received by USCIS.
Only assumptions in the above analysis are
1. Figures given by Mr. Op.. is somewhat correct. (Seems to be correct based on monthly statistics released by USCIS since 2008)
2. USCIS does not intend to waste visas.(This also can be safely assumed as they are following the policy of not wasting for the last two years)
3.No country limit. (This seems correct if point 2 is correct)
Now guys, do not disturb my dream.:)
Only assumptions in the above analysis are
1. Figures given by Mr. Op.. is somewhat correct. (Seems to be correct based on monthly statistics released by USCIS since 2008)
2. USCIS does not intend to waste visas.(This also can be safely assumed as they are following the policy of not wasting for the last two years)
3.No country limit. (This seems correct if point 2 is correct)
Now guys, do not disturb my dream.:)
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prabasiodia
06-12 05:44 PM
Pappu,
I agree with all most all of your points except one. You talk about everybody being part of Core IV when you say "Now coming to your question about core team. Core team is nothing but people like you."
That simply cannot happen because then IV as a whole would be acting like a headless chicken. Everyone now a days seems to be starting a drive, throwing tantrums at fellow IVians etc. This has to stop as per most of passive members, it means directionlessness.
I've a suggestion. Let's ask our members, those who want to be the core. Let's restrict the core group membership to 20-25. If we get more responses, we can poll for the most favorite candidates on the forum. Similarly we can ask all of our members for the drives they want to support and poll for the drives. The most favorite five drives then become IV's drives. Most people will not work unless they are given clear instructions. The reason FOIA drive became successful was because it was coordinated well, gave a clear direction to the members and had a clear goal. That is why we raised more money than required for that drive. We need similar type of purposeful drives which will keep all of us motivated. The forum members may vote out a core team member, if they are dissatisfied, I mean we can employ all types of checks and balances for an efficient core team and an efficient drive system.
A ship can have thousands of oarsmen but it needs an able captain to take it to the shore. If you ask me, I'll vote for you as the captain. :)
I agree with all most all of your points except one. You talk about everybody being part of Core IV when you say "Now coming to your question about core team. Core team is nothing but people like you."
That simply cannot happen because then IV as a whole would be acting like a headless chicken. Everyone now a days seems to be starting a drive, throwing tantrums at fellow IVians etc. This has to stop as per most of passive members, it means directionlessness.
I've a suggestion. Let's ask our members, those who want to be the core. Let's restrict the core group membership to 20-25. If we get more responses, we can poll for the most favorite candidates on the forum. Similarly we can ask all of our members for the drives they want to support and poll for the drives. The most favorite five drives then become IV's drives. Most people will not work unless they are given clear instructions. The reason FOIA drive became successful was because it was coordinated well, gave a clear direction to the members and had a clear goal. That is why we raised more money than required for that drive. We need similar type of purposeful drives which will keep all of us motivated. The forum members may vote out a core team member, if they are dissatisfied, I mean we can employ all types of checks and balances for an efficient core team and an efficient drive system.
A ship can have thousands of oarsmen but it needs an able captain to take it to the shore. If you ask me, I'll vote for you as the captain. :)
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Nil
03-19 01:57 AM
What are you talking about? Let me have two of whatever you are smoking or drinking.
You have it all wrong. Your experience or qualification DO NOT QUALIFY you for EB2. It is the requirement of JOB that matters. GOT IT.
Now go scream your lungs out in front of the Capitol, Yelling "DISCRIMINATION".:mad:
Well this is a good point, and a true one: The requirement of the job. Before PERM, in many cases, the employer was willing to consider an EB2 if the candidate qualified for it. For those who would have qualified, but were put into EB3 on grounds of job requirement, it can feel very frustrating.
i am sure there are cases where the employer-lawyer nexus has taken advantage of the backlogs to retain an employee. Let us focus on this, instead of trying to look at 'discrimination'.
End of the day, we'd like to have a transparent process with flexibility to change jobs, so that we get the best for ourselves.
EB2 or EB3, if any one moves well, can be good for the other category in the long run.
You have it all wrong. Your experience or qualification DO NOT QUALIFY you for EB2. It is the requirement of JOB that matters. GOT IT.
Now go scream your lungs out in front of the Capitol, Yelling "DISCRIMINATION".:mad:
Well this is a good point, and a true one: The requirement of the job. Before PERM, in many cases, the employer was willing to consider an EB2 if the candidate qualified for it. For those who would have qualified, but were put into EB3 on grounds of job requirement, it can feel very frustrating.
i am sure there are cases where the employer-lawyer nexus has taken advantage of the backlogs to retain an employee. Let us focus on this, instead of trying to look at 'discrimination'.
End of the day, we'd like to have a transparent process with flexibility to change jobs, so that we get the best for ourselves.
EB2 or EB3, if any one moves well, can be good for the other category in the long run.
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EndlessWait
02-24 09:22 PM
You mean to say sell US real estate for GC/citizenship? I don't see this going very far. I can see anti immigrants waiting for this one. Best is to lobby using aides of big corporations, developing relationship with lobbyists who already have connections, hiring lawyers, developing strong case, donations in election campaigns etc. All of this needs loads and loads of money. Are we ready to donate to IV and build strong lobbying group for our cause? That is the only way to change our current situation.
Sending flowers, sending pizzas, sending all these proposals will only fall on deaf ears. Congress understands language of money to pass laws, Rest of the country/orgranizations understand language of laws/court.
For those who think assisting US economy by buy houses (for pending GC applicants) is like selling a GC are just plain dumb! No wonder why we dont have a resolution to the 10 yr waiting that's been killing EB immigrants, is because ppl like you, who love to take pain want others to live through this for the lifetime.
People have been waiting for 10+ years here waiting to get GC, waiting patiently, waiting so patiently that we are getting mentally sick waiting and waiting. How do u think the quota system is ..its not fair in the first place for EB immigrants when we are already here on H/L visas... . So dude pls stop ur bull shit and dont discourage by coming up with ridiculous statements "You mean to say sell US real estate for GC/citizenship?"
We the prospective, EB immigrants want to settle here. Its more than a home here already if you are living and paying taxes for 10+ years.. We just want to buy a house and a permanent visa status is only going to help. Its a win-win situation for both sides....
We are not looking them to sell GC for houses to ppl who are residing outside. This is a relief mechanism for ppl who are waiting and waiting and just plain waiting here in the EB queue!
Ok.. now go and think..do u enjoy pain or want to do anything about it!
I would strongly urge IV to take this and would be willing help and have a dialogue with any state/congress representative they want me to.... How do u think it wont' fly. US govt is spending and bailing out trillions of dollars to help cure this cause. If we buy houses, it is only going to help the cause. Most of us have good credit score and can afford to buy houses, this will only help the very thing that the govt. is trying to stabilize.
I'm surprised, how come IV is not aggressively pursuing this. What better way to help everyone here. If they want to address the fundamental issues they certainly can, but this the immediate focus and like quota recapture, will provide immediate relief to decades long wait for applicants!
So pls stop disparaging the effort. Its a good cause for both sides.
We want to be a permanent resident and contribute to US economy. So help us god!
Sending flowers, sending pizzas, sending all these proposals will only fall on deaf ears. Congress understands language of money to pass laws, Rest of the country/orgranizations understand language of laws/court.
For those who think assisting US economy by buy houses (for pending GC applicants) is like selling a GC are just plain dumb! No wonder why we dont have a resolution to the 10 yr waiting that's been killing EB immigrants, is because ppl like you, who love to take pain want others to live through this for the lifetime.
People have been waiting for 10+ years here waiting to get GC, waiting patiently, waiting so patiently that we are getting mentally sick waiting and waiting. How do u think the quota system is ..its not fair in the first place for EB immigrants when we are already here on H/L visas... . So dude pls stop ur bull shit and dont discourage by coming up with ridiculous statements "You mean to say sell US real estate for GC/citizenship?"
We the prospective, EB immigrants want to settle here. Its more than a home here already if you are living and paying taxes for 10+ years.. We just want to buy a house and a permanent visa status is only going to help. Its a win-win situation for both sides....
We are not looking them to sell GC for houses to ppl who are residing outside. This is a relief mechanism for ppl who are waiting and waiting and just plain waiting here in the EB queue!
Ok.. now go and think..do u enjoy pain or want to do anything about it!
I would strongly urge IV to take this and would be willing help and have a dialogue with any state/congress representative they want me to.... How do u think it wont' fly. US govt is spending and bailing out trillions of dollars to help cure this cause. If we buy houses, it is only going to help the cause. Most of us have good credit score and can afford to buy houses, this will only help the very thing that the govt. is trying to stabilize.
I'm surprised, how come IV is not aggressively pursuing this. What better way to help everyone here. If they want to address the fundamental issues they certainly can, but this the immediate focus and like quota recapture, will provide immediate relief to decades long wait for applicants!
So pls stop disparaging the effort. Its a good cause for both sides.
We want to be a permanent resident and contribute to US economy. So help us god!
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WeShallOvercome
07-06 02:36 PM
They would just increase the fees , and we will paying them that money back.
State never looses...
Even in that case, all the benefits they were hoping to get from increased fees will be lost - and much more than that.
Average fee hike is $500 but average reimbursement of expenses would be atleast $1000
State never looses...
Even in that case, all the benefits they were hoping to get from increased fees will be lost - and much more than that.
Average fee hike is $500 but average reimbursement of expenses would be atleast $1000
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axp817
06-10 09:34 PM
Thanks for your informed comments. Like you, I am also surprised to find many people in this forum, who are interested in fire arms.
I don't own a fire arm and not planning to while the immigration status is not yet Citizenship. I don't want the authorities to give another reason to look into my case. I just go for fishing once in a while.
But our family owns two guns in India and have worked with guns from childhood.
Another point is I am very much impressed with how the Americans manage wild life and the nature in general. They enjoy it while preserving it. India does neither. We just destroy it, and write eloquent speeches on nature protection.
Thank you, always glad to help. Many years ago, I was looking for answers to these questions and had to do my own research, internet forums weren't as big then.
I am a hunter as well, and when I went through hunter education, I was amazed to learn how serious the west was about wildlife and nature conservation. Hunting is a very important part of nature conservation. Every country that legalizes hunting, does so in a controlled manner in order to prevent a biological surplus in a species' habitat.
I don't fish that often, except for the odd deep sea fishing trip when the weather is nice, but anything that can get one outdoors breathing fresh air wins my vote.
godspeed,
I don't own a fire arm and not planning to while the immigration status is not yet Citizenship. I don't want the authorities to give another reason to look into my case. I just go for fishing once in a while.
But our family owns two guns in India and have worked with guns from childhood.
Another point is I am very much impressed with how the Americans manage wild life and the nature in general. They enjoy it while preserving it. India does neither. We just destroy it, and write eloquent speeches on nature protection.
Thank you, always glad to help. Many years ago, I was looking for answers to these questions and had to do my own research, internet forums weren't as big then.
I am a hunter as well, and when I went through hunter education, I was amazed to learn how serious the west was about wildlife and nature conservation. Hunting is a very important part of nature conservation. Every country that legalizes hunting, does so in a controlled manner in order to prevent a biological surplus in a species' habitat.
I don't fish that often, except for the odd deep sea fishing trip when the weather is nice, but anything that can get one outdoors breathing fresh air wins my vote.
godspeed,
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desi3933
06-29 05:02 PM
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The case was dismissed due to request of Joint Stipulation of Dismissal by the parties involved. Each party agreed to bear their own fess, costs, and expenses.
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The case was dismissed due to request of Joint Stipulation of Dismissal by the parties involved. Each party agreed to bear their own fess, costs, and expenses.
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vinodp1978
06-28 04:05 PM
Obviously i was wanting to know what the law states...and not a democratic answer. I dont always expect forums to quote the law correctly - use your judgement!
Thanks anyway for that answer. My situation is different beacuse with the I-140 PP going away for now...and my H1B expiring Feb 2008...I am left with approved I-140,Labor and retrogressed dates to be eligible for 3yr extension.
Now that if 140 is pending ...then I am left with EAD as the only option to continue manitaing my status.
Correct my intrepretation of law if wrong..
Thanks anyway for that answer. My situation is different beacuse with the I-140 PP going away for now...and my H1B expiring Feb 2008...I am left with approved I-140,Labor and retrogressed dates to be eligible for 3yr extension.
Now that if 140 is pending ...then I am left with EAD as the only option to continue manitaing my status.
Correct my intrepretation of law if wrong..
EBX-Man
05-06 03:44 PM
I think u guys are getting anxious and thinking of such ways. u will need some determination to complete the MS besides ur regular work.......suppose if EB2 gets clogged suddenly next year, will u stop doing MS then?
While what you ask is valid what you need to understand is that these people have a right to get anxious and hence want to better their situation and you should not object to that. Help them if you can and if you dont want to help then dont. Let them figure their way out, Believe me they will figure out a way to do MS for less and online. In any case EB2 getting clogged will not effect these people because EB2 dates might not progress but will not go back and if these people complete their MS and get a job which sponsers them in EB2 they become current according to their EB2 qualification.
While what you ask is valid what you need to understand is that these people have a right to get anxious and hence want to better their situation and you should not object to that. Help them if you can and if you dont want to help then dont. Let them figure their way out, Believe me they will figure out a way to do MS for less and online. In any case EB2 getting clogged will not effect these people because EB2 dates might not progress but will not go back and if these people complete their MS and get a job which sponsers them in EB2 they become current according to their EB2 qualification.
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05-25 02:22 PM
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